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Civil unions for all

I’m going to step away from my usual topics to discuss marriage and civil union.  I had a brief discussion about this on twitter. Let me start off by saying, I have no problems with male/female, female/female or male/male relationships.  The whole stickiness starts with the idea of what marriage is and who should be allowed to do it.  I think it ought to be a level playing field.  Heck, I don’t even have an issue with people jointly marrying more than one person at a time as long as they are all consenting adults.



Marriage has meant many things to many people over the course of history and a lot of it wasn’t necessarily pleasant, especially for the female.  For many people, marriage has religious connotations.  It is typically performed in a religious context with the legalities performed later (as in the signing of the marriage certificate in front of legal witnesses).  For example, marriage is a Christian sacrament.  It is an oath of loyalty not only between a man and a woman until death, but also jointly to God. 

This is where the conflict comes in.  One of the founding principles in this country is freedom of religion and the idea that one should not be forced to do something, in any way, that is against one’s religion. Yet everyone, no matter their sex should be able to combine their household with the person they love and have the legal rights and protections that such a union entails.  So what is the solution?

Get the government out of the religious business entirely.  No one gets a marriage license.  Separation of church and state is an important concept.  It is a matter of being fair to everyone in this rather large and diverse country.  Instead of getting married, everyone gets a civil union decree.  It is this decree that gives one the protection of the law.  It is purely secular in nature.  It diffuses the religious argument and gets the government out of the business of deciding what is and what is not a marriage.  This should appeal equally to atheists and the religious.  In reality, nothing different would happen than what already happens, just one word changed into two.  The couple would sign a civil union license before witnesses, before or after their marriage ceremony.  If they don’t want to have a marriage ceremony, well that’s up to them, as it would be the civil union that confers the legalities.   

It is a simple idea.  What do you think?  Do you disagree?  Why?

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I'm an eclectic polytheist whose main divinities are Heru-ur, Bast, Sobek, Yinepu Isis, Zeus-Serapis, and Yemaya. I'm a mother, wife and Librarian living in the Rocky Mountains stumbling on my path and wondering what the heck I'm doing. Blessed be.


  • Anne Newkirk Niven
    Anne Newkirk Niven Thursday, 30 April 2015

    Five years ago, I would have agreed with you 100%, but my perspective has now changed. LGBT people want the word "marriage" to be applied to their committed unions, and I can't (anymore) think of any logical impediment.

  • Melia/Merit Brokaw
    Melia/Merit Brokaw Thursday, 30 April 2015

    Are they interested in a word or equal rights? I think they are interested in equal rights. The word should be irrelevant.

  • Paulene Adams
    Paulene Adams Thursday, 07 May 2015

    I've always said what we call marriage should be more of a contract between people. So civil union works. I also said that it should be made renewable like a drivers license every 5 or 6 years which would eliminate divorce proceedings but that would never happen too many divorce lawyers out there....

  • charlotte
    charlotte Thursday, 07 May 2015

    I think its a MARVELOUS idea,,,how smart you are,,the point of most people of MARRIAGE is to join as a family with all the rights of community property,,,adoption of one or the others children with rights when one passes and leaves the kids behind,,,to save on bull lawsuits that confuse kids,,so that a couple can leave their belongings and have the rights everybody should have and this would solve the problem,,,the ceremony can be their religion or not i think its wonderful idea,,

  • Jan Calloway-Baxter
    Jan Calloway-Baxter Thursday, 07 May 2015

    Unfortunately, I don't believe this would help. It would simply move the current debate to "Who should be allowed to have a civil union." Words are powerful, as all witches know, and "marriage" conveys a weight that "civil union" just does not, perhaps because of its historical connotations. I believe any consenting adults should be able to marry each other, including polyamorous marriages. I hope to see marriage equality extended to all in my lifetime.

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